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Brothels, illegal bar closed in weekend raid

Editor’s note: Periodico editor Jeanne is on a well-deserved two-week vacation. Until her column returns May 14, CHL will post a daily digest of local events.

The owners of two brothels and a tienda that operated an illegal bar were arrested Friday night in a police raid.

Police close down two Cuenca brothels.

Police say that the brothels, which operated out of hostels on Calle Mariscal Lamar and Calle Luis Pauta, did not have licenses and health certificates to legally offer sexual services.

Police said the tienda, located near the Feria Libre market, had a room behind a partition that served as an unregistered bar. Eight customers were briefly detained, then released.

Search continues for Ecuadorian missing in Canada

The family of a missing Ecuadorian student has arrived in Vancouver hoping to help in the search. Louis Gonick, 21, who attends the University of British Columbia, has been missing for two weeks and Canadian police say they have few leads.

According to the Canadian Global News portal, Gonick was last seen on April 16 when a taxi dropped him at Stanley Park in Vancouver. It reports that he asked to be left at a bridge next to the park. Police have been unable to provide additional information. The case has attracted nation-wide attention in Canada as well as in Ecuador.

Gonick ‘s family say they came to Canada to do “everything possible to find our son.”

Illegal merchants removed

The city is stepping up removal of unlicensed vendors in the historic district in the area of the 9 de Octubre market and Rotary Market. Pablo Barzallo, director of Historical and Patrimonial Areas committee, says that the vendors are taking over sidewalk space in the area, forcing residents and pedestrians to walk in the adjacent streets.

“They are also unfair competition to market vendors who are licensed and pay for the right to sell their goods,” he said. “Our efforts in this regard will continue.”

Ecuador authorities warn of ‘Blue Whale’ dangers

Ecuador Deputy Interior Minister Diego Fuentes is warning parents about the online game Blue Whale, which has been connected to two suicides in Russia and one in Great Britain.

According to law enforcement sources in Britain, the game guides its mostly teenage players through a series of objectives. If players fail to complete the objectives, the game suggests they kill themselves. Two teenagers jumped to their deaths in Russia after playing the game and a British girl hung herself, according to news reports.

Fuentes said his agency is working with authorities in other countries to shut down the game and arrest the developers, who are believed to be Russian. He advises parents to pay special attention to their children’s online viewing habits.

37 thoughts on “Brothels, illegal bar closed in weekend raid

  1. The blue whale thing is fake. You should check snopes or other resources before reporting false news.http://www.snopes.com/blue-whale-game-suicides-russia/

    However, everyone should know what is going on with their teens and be assured that they are not playing this dangerous or any other dangerous games, or participating in any kind of cult rituals. On November 18, 1978, in what became known as the Jonestown Massacre, Jim Jones led more than 900 men, women and children to their deaths in a mass suicide via cyanide-laced punch (spawning the metaphor “Don’t Drink the Kool-Aid”). They drank it willingly. This alone is proof of the kind of brainwashing that can occur.
    Protect your loved ones.

    1. They said they would recap articles while Jeanne was gone. They didn’t say they would fact check the articles. it’s up to you to decide if you want to believe the Ecuadorian newspaper.

    2. Blue Whale is definitely overdramatized but it is real. Snopes is so eager to make a name for itself that it often ignores real facts and legitimate media. You’re right, crazy stuff, fake or not, can be deadly.

    3. That Jonestown story line has since been discredited. Those people were hunted down and killed.

      1. Frank, just to let you know. You are my new “go to” source for misinformation and gossip. Keep up the hysterical work.

      2. I just found out that Jim Jones, the leader at Jonestown, had a sex change procedure as well as an age reduction (using ozone and chelation) and is now the very successful singer Norah Jones. Amazing. I found all this at i_am_a_whackjob (dot) com

  2. How can I get a list of the legal brothels in Cuenca? I like the lady on the right in the picture and would like to meet her professionally.

    1. That’s very low frequency of you Terry. There are so many nice looking Cuencanas here and it seems like the majority of them are single. A lot of them are virgins even up to their late twenties or early thirties. If breaking into Cuenca’s closed society is a problem for you then just use free language exchange sessions to meet girls.

      The brothels are beyond filthy and a lot of the girls in the brothels are victims of human trafficking. They are only allowed in one specific location where there are several on one block. If you really want to go then just ask a taxi driver and they’ll take you there. Be sure to go on an empty stomach or you might not be able to stop yourself from throwing up when you get there!

        1. I don’t know much about them but when you live in a place for 8 years, speak the local language communicate with locals, read the paper and watch the news then you accumulate some facts about what’s going on around you.

          Would you ask a person who complained about a nieghbor smoking marijuana how they know what it smells like if the’ve never smoked it themselves? Cmon Frank!

          1. “I don’t know much about them but when you live in a place for 8 years, speak the local language communicate with locals, read the paper and watch the news then you accumulate some facts about what’s going on around you.”

            No, Michael, what you accumulate is hearsay that you interpret, embellish and then pass on as fact and not the third hand hearsay that it is.

            You are beginning to sound a lot like Malcom Reding, who over the years came off as an expert on every topic under the sun and as you have done in this case, he would represent his opinions as facts and present them with great authority. Trouble with that in Malcom’s case was that he got called on his false information so often by people that actually knew the facts that he became the Chicken Little of every expat site he posted on and has been completely dismissed as a pariah. We seldom hear from him any longer.

            Your entire first paragraph is a plausible denial excuse for what you wrote previously. You have provided nothing at all to support the claims you represent as facts. You don’t provide references to support your claims because they don’t exist. In other words, what you represent as fact isn’t factual at all and that has nothing to do with how well you speak Spanish, who your friends are nor how long you have been here.

      1. Interesting post, Michael. It seems as if you have quite a bit of experience in this area and I’m hoping you can tell us how you know the following:

        1. A lot of them are virgins even up to their late twenties or early thirties.

        2. The brothels are beyond filthy

        3. a lot of the girls in the brothels are victims of human trafficking.

        Frankly, I think you are just shooting from the hip and made this stuff up. Especially number 3 about human trafficking. One thing that causes me to think that is when you wrote this: “They are only allowed in one specific location where there are several on one block.” This is simply untrue. There are legal brothels elsewhere aside from the ones you allude to on Av. Cayambe.

        1. Time for a little homework, Still. Human trafficking is a world-wide problem. Why would Cuenca be exempt?

          1. Forgive my wry smile, Moonie, but I know quite a bit about the world wide problem of human trafficking and slavery and specifically, how it relates to the sex business.

            As for your question, give me the name you write under for CHL where I believe you have posted your e-mail address. If so, I will send you mine and we can exchange phone numbers and I will answer your question in depth

        2. 4. Some of my information may be out of date in which case it’s good that people such as yourself are able to step in and provide more up-to-date information. At one time zoning in Cuenca only allowed that type of thing in one specific area.

          3. There have been several Spanish language articles about human trafficking and those places published over the years and the fact that a lot of non-Ecuadorians work at places like that is no secret.

          2. You’ve seen how dirty many of the restaurants here are. What makes you think a prostitution house would be clean? At the very least it would be energetically dirty.

          1. Maybe you are right and I was just making this up or maybe a gentleman never tells; either way you are free to provide contradictory information if you doubt this.

          1. “4. Some of my information may be out of date in which case it’s good that people such as yourself are able to step in and provide more up-to-date information. At one time zoning in Cuenca only allowed that type of thing in one specific area.”

            Legal prostitution in Cuenca is restricted to specific areas but there are more than one of them. Wherever they are, they are called La Zona de Tolerancia. As I indicated, the largest of these is on Av. Cuyambe, but there are others such as in Guayanacapac and along the highway that goes toward Azogues.
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            “3. There have been several Spanish language articles about human trafficking and those places published over the years and the fact that a lot of non-Ecuadorians work at places like that is no secret.”

            Not only do you not tell us, specifically, what the articles you refer to say that would allow you to conclude that the prostitution you point to in Cuenca has sex workers supplied as a result of human trafficking, your assertion that a lot of non Ecuadorians work in Cuenca’s legal brothels is incorrect. Yes, there are some Colombians and a growing number of Venezuelans that have come to work in Ecuador in the sex business out of desperation, but by and large, they don’t work in the brothels, but rather, as prepagos, universitarias and escorts for private agencies. You can confirm that here:
            http://cuenca.backpage.com/en-un/FemaleEscorts/?layout=gallery

            and here:

            http://cuenca.doplim.ec/relaciones-ocasionales-sr-54

            or just do a google search on your own if you like.
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            “2. You’ve seen how dirty many of the restaurants here are. What makes you think a prostitution house would be clean? At the very least it would be energetically dirty.”

            That is a classic strawman argument and that is such an important point I will give you a link that will explain it to you in minutes:

            https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

            As spurious as your argument is (and as little as it does to address anything I ever wrote) I’ll shoot holes in it anyway. You seem to be implying that because there are some dirty restaurants in Cuenca, that it must logically follow that legal brothels in Cuenca are “beyond filthy” as you wrote. What about all the clean restaurants in Cuenca? By your logic, wouldn’t it imply that there must be some clean brothels here as well? However, you really stepped in it when you wrote:

            “Be sure to go on an empty stomach or you might not be able to stop yourself from throwing up when you get there!”

            How could you possibly know that unless you experienced it yourself? Even if you care to admit that you had a first hand experience that would cause you to write that, it would then beg the question exactly how many of the dozens of other legal brothels did you visit that would allow you to label them all as “beyond filthy”?
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            “1. Maybe you are right and I was just making this up or maybe a gentleman never tells”

            Why don’t you stop playing plausible denial and guessing games and tell us what the case is? If you had just told us that what you were writing was an uninformed speculation, I wouldn’t have blinked an eye, but when you pull a faulkner on me and just make up your own facts that are provably wrong, I will call you on it every time.

            1. I
              posted accurate information and apart from one out of date detail you have no
              contrary evidence whatsoever nor will you find any because facts are
              facts. You are cowardly little Troll who likes to waste other peoples
              time and is afraid to use your real name! No more food for you today apart from
              this morsel.

              1. Michael, I refrained from saying this overtly until now, giving you the opportunity to admit you made up what you have represented as facts. They are not facts, they are your own fantasies, unsupported by a single reference that would confirm them.

                Like many other people unschooled in the precepts of logic and debate, you insist it is the obligation of those that question your made up facts to prove you wrong. It is never the responsibility of a questioner to bear the burden of proof. That always lies with the person making the assertion.

                As is also often the case, people like yourself that present false information and are called on it, will often resort to childish name calling and ad hominem attacks as you have done here. That is when your true colors are revealed. I am confident that most readers will see you for what you are.

      2. Why do the majority of nice looking Cuencanas seem to be single? Maybe because they are friendly people and will return a smile? Or, is it wishful thinking?
        Those who are still virgins in their late twenties or early thirties are called nuns.

      3. Michael, you haven’t addressed this one yet:

        “1. A lot of them are virgins even up to their late twenties or early thirties.”

        How do you know this?

  3. It’s by far a better read, this CHL version of the local newspaper translation. The regular column’s opinion and snide remarks aren’t news. Thanks for the improvement CHL.

  4. When visiting these brothels, be economical; always ask for the clergyman’s rate.
    These brothels obviously did not pay off the local cops enough.

  5. The ‘customers’ at the illegal brothel were briefly detained and released? Lovely. If they frequent illegal brothels, they just might have an STD they can take home.

    1. Yes. Very much like the burglars who left with the hand gun of the recently murdered fellow reported here. Now that gun will certainly be used in other expat burglaries and deaths, spawning more. That’s how all social diseases spread.

    2. Good point, Moonie. The sex workers in the legal brothels must meet rigid health standards that are frequently checked by police. Surely not so in illegal brothels.

  6. Sad comments. But attitudes are culturally based more than anything. I have found that sex stuff is oddly parochial for those raised in anglophone nations. The USA, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa some of the most rape-prone places on the planet. For decades, the majority of the top ten rape nations have been and are anglophone.

    (Sweden can not be fairly counted as their legal definition of “rape” is so bizarre). And of course, in many countries, victims do not report their rape.

    Yet there is a curious fact. Canada is a major British-influenced culture and has a VERY low rape rate, only 5-6% that of the USA or its anglophone brethren. I could speculate that it is their French influence, but the France and Belgium rates are nothing to be proud of (much to my dismay). Perhaps it is merely Cannuck tolerance. (They never seem to have a political sex scandal either. No interest?)

    The rape capitals (by far) in the US are Alaska and South Dakota. Trump never mentions that. Are these states noted for high immigrant populations?

  7. @StillTrolling
    I am not like the man who uses the identity “Malcolm Reding”, Michael Berger is my real name and I have a reputation for providing accurate information.
    Anyway… looks like you still can’t refute what I’ve said huh?
    If I claim the sky is blue is the claim false unless I can site a specific source that verifies it? No the sky IS blue and brothels in Cuenca ARE beyond filthy. I don’t think you really believe that brothels in Cuenca are clean, I think you are just arguing the point to be a jerk. You must have figured out I was also right about the human trafficking aspect since your evidence to the contrary was so weak that you did not post it here and only offered to email it privately to LadyMoon! Once you show your evidence that human trafficking is not a problem in Ecuador I’d be happy to show you specific evidence to the contrary (multiple articles about human trafficking victims working in brothels in Ecuador).

    As far as ad hominem attacks are concerned anybody following the thread can see that it was only after exposing your logical fallacies that I identified you, ACCURATELY, as a Troll. Why should I spend time providing evidence for my claims just to satisfy some random bully who would just continue to try to find more points to argue? You are not a moderator here, nor are you a person who makes valuable contributions to the site. You are like some drunk in a bar who won’t stop arguing and then thinks he has won the argument when somebody with better stuff to do walks away.

    1. Excuse typo error , S.W. You can always tell the 1’s Getting it and 1’s Not .

    2. “I have a reputation for providing accurate information.”

      Well that’s all I need to know. That statement is pretty much irrefutable.

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