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Moreno demands tougher justice from courts

As part of a new anti-crime campaign, President Lenin Moreno and Interior Minister María Paula Romo claim that Ecuador’s criminal justice system is going soft on criminals.

Interior Minister María Paula Romo

Meeting with police in Quito, Moreno said his government is working with courts to put more “hardened and repeating offenders” behind bars. “Every day, the police of Ecuador risk their lives to protect the people of this country. What I ask of the courts is that justice is quickly and fairly meted out so that the sacrifices of law enforcement do not go nothing.”

At the meeting, Romo appeared via video link to recount court cases in which she believed criminals went unpunished due to lax enforcement. “In a 2017 operation in Manabí Provice, 11 people were arrested for trafficking drugs,” she said. “The criminals were sentenced but the criminal court forgot to issue the sentences in writing and the offenders went free.”

Among the other cases she cited, Romo described a Cuenca robbery suspect who had been arrested six times and never convicted. “The evidence was there but he was released again and again only to commit more crimes.”

Romo also claimed that courts are often give harsher sentences to police personnel than to the criminals they are attempting to apprehend. “We have the case of police Corporal David Velasteguí who was sentenced to three years in prison for the death of an illegal miner who was attacking him,” she said. She added that she will file an amnesty request for Velasteguí’s release next week.

Moreno said he has “full faith” in the justice system but believes adjustments can be made to better serve the citizens. “What we ask is more rigor and efficiency in the justice system,” he said. “We also ask the system for a higher awareness of the great service that our police provide.”

47 thoughts on “Moreno demands tougher justice from courts

  1. Soon, all will be in jail, except the cops, of course, since they do no wrong. (Yeah).
    Legalize weed, and you can lay off 20% of all cops, judges, probation people and prison personnel right now. These gov’t employees know this, and they fight like blazes to run these stories in the media in order to keep their jobs.
    And please, don’t forget that lawyers make 20% of their fees on weed-related charges. Which profession makes up the majority of most legislative bodies? Lawyers.
    Should the executive branch call out the judicial branch? Nixon did that during the Charles Manson trial. The Manson family was a psy-op run by the U.S. Army counter-intelligence forces, done in cooperation with the mainstream presstitutes, and used to scare the average U.S. citizen into wanting more police and military spending. All a scam; mind control.
    Maybe Stanley Kubrick should call out the Ecuadorian judicial system.

    1. Are either of your 20% claims based on anything other than your own feelings? I mean do you have any actual data or should we just accept your claim as fact.

      Lawyers make up the majority of legislative bodies. Wow, it’s shocking to think that people who studied law end up in the branch of public service responsible for making laws. That’s almost as shocking as learning that the majority of people in the Chamber of Commerce studied business or that the majority of people in the Ministry of Public Health studied public health.

      BTW, you do realize that Nixon added weed to the list of schedule A controlled substances by executive order, right? It went from legal to illegal with nothing more than a flick of his pen. Does that mean he was calling out the judiciary or was he sending them more business? Just want to make sure I understand the conspiracy properly.

      How soon can we all expect to be in jail? Can you give us a lose time frame? 5 years? 20 years? 50 years? We get that the sky is falling, we’d just like to know how long before it hits us.

      1. Forgive me Jason..not a good post. You should examine costs of police work, court procedures and incarceration in countries, before and after they abolished cannabis law. In Canada, it has been all we hoped for it. A HUGE reduction costs (after the purchase of road side devices that can instantly detect cannabis levels of drivers).

        And none of this speaks to the enormous revenue to the governments who have the exclusive to sell the stuff or control it (varies from province to province).

        Of course, policemen were not fired. They were given more intensive training and resources in other areas..which make it safer.

        On the other hand, Ecuador, (or any country), does not have a societal drug problem that the developed nations have. But these countries are forced by the US to spend a huge amount of money trying to stop a plague that doesn’t effect them. So Central and South Americans have fewer hospitals, schools, roads etc speniding what they have so that a developed nation person pays more for that toke.

        1. I didn’t make any case for cannabis laws. For that matter, I’ve posted many comments on why all drug prohibition should be abolished. However, that wasn’t the point of the comment you’re replying to. I think you may need to reread it.

          1. Osvaldo. Read carefully, I did not “correct” ANY mistakes in Jason’s post. I merely tried to massage the path of the conversation into a more productive direction than where it was going.

              1. Osvaldo? Is there any point going on and on about problems without ever musing about solutions? I am also NOT into personality cults. Better systems are FAR more pivotal than better people. However, most of the world is fixated on a diet of bs and barbs.

                I made the comment because I have an enormous respect for our Mr. Faulkner’s potential. I beleive him to be knowledgeable, intelligent and able to organize his thoughts cogently..regardless of whether one agrees with him or not. AND, he writes well. If these gifts were sent on a more productive path…..(and I am sure they eventually will) than I would be very happy.

  2. Justice is non existent in Ecuador. Tens of thousands of police on cell phones, thousands of crimes unprosecuted and criminals walk the streets. A Real Socialist/Communist life style. Moreno is 100% right, lets start arresting and sentencing these criminals and protect the law abiding citizens. Calling the police is an joke and that needs to change and change real soon.

    1. Ecuador has the second lowest crime rate in Latin America. It has risen this year for the first time in 15 years.

      So I guess what I’m asking is, what exactly is Moreno “100% right” about?

          1. Jason. Are you suggesting there are people who DO NOT have bank accounts in Panama. 😀 I certainly do.

            Panama (and most other offshore financial institutions) have a characteristic that onshore banks, especially those of the Western world, do not have. By and large, they don’t fail, the don’t cheat their depositors and they do not require the electorate to bail them out regularly for mind-boggling sums.

            They operate on the simple old premise that the primary duty of a banker is to safeguard the money of its customers..not impose a rainbow of different laws from other countries. Now they have been demonized again because the ONshore banks lost most of the money they were holding and coerced their governments to take measures to force other money back into their coffers. Since these are also the people that pay for campaigns in the UK and the USA, what could be simpler?!!

            As for Panama City specifically, it is the closest full service world financial center in this area.

            1. None of that matters because you aren’t a public official. Ecuadorian law expressly prohibits public officials from having offshore accounts. This law was put into place because it is a common way for corrupt officials to receive bribes. Moreno’s account received an $18 million deposit and the AG has refused to open an investigation despite being provided with deposit amounts, dates and even the bank account number. Meanwhile, she has indicted Correa for bribery because he received a $6k loan in 2014 from his office’s solidarity fund (that he also paid $400 per month into for 10 years) that bank records prove he paid back in full in 12 months as stipulated in the loan contract. Meanwhile, bank records show that Moreno’s account was used to furnish his apartment in Switzerland and purchase a condo on the Spanish coast and he hasn’t even been called in for questioning.

        1. Because when I want reliable information, I go to the security experts at Alltherooms .. wait, who are they again? Maybe someday they can publish their methodology the way actual security firms do and you can determine if you want to hitch your wagon to them.

          Tell us again about the international hotel chains Correa let dump their raw sewage into the ocean.

    2. Twice in the last few months i have been hit by cars coming from small streets into large highway to turn right .. // i am from California .. we pedestrians follow strict rules .. or risk heavy fines .. i was looking at the green signal showing /// WALK /// Drivers who hit me did not even slow down // Cop was there /// DID NOTHING // even though my arm was bleeding // So /// My friend // Right // Justice is what i left behind //

      1. /// twice ? /// in a short period of time ? /// you don’t learn very quickly do you ? /// you are not in CA anymore //// learn the lesson /// maybe the next one will kill you ///

        1. Most Gringos don’t bother to find out what the laws are there. They think locals there should cater to them. No one twisted their arms or begged them to go there. If they don’t like the way things are there they need to go somewhere else. Ecuador will not miss them.

          1. Is there a law that says that drivers don’t have to look for pedestrians and slow down when making a turn? Could you sight that law please?

        2. Why be mean to someone who has been hit by cars? Do you get off on meanness? What Dodd Sheikh wrote is cautionary. We do have to look carefully for turning cars while crossing a street, even with a green light.

          1. if he was preaching caution then he would have been more cautious the 2nd time … he was preaching that the police here don’t do their job and that he misses the justice in CA. Ecuador is different to CA … he needs to adapt or perish … or return to CA where he can feel safe ?

    3. Only called the police once. They arrived within 6 minutes and took care of the issue. Guess their cell phone was malfunctioning.

    1. UBI is the only way we’ll be able to avoid global civil unrest as the machines displace the overwhelming majority of human workers over the next 30 years. Sadly, the powers that be don’t stand to gain from such a proactive approach so they’ll resist until after there’s a complete meltdown.

    2. When people keep over populating and there are less jobs that need human workers that is not possible.

        1. do you really want to find out ? we might have passed it already with the environmental damage, species dying out and global warming raising the sea level so that island groups will be wiped out causing mass migration to higher ground. these things will put enormous strain on the already delicate global peace (?)

          1. The previous poster stated that people are overpopulating the Earth. Before one can make that claim, we have to determine what the carrying capacity is. At present we throw away over half of all food produced, so I think it´s safe to say we´re nowhere near capacity. Besides, just telling people we’ve overpopulated isn’t offering a solution. The determinants that go into population growth are mostly social and the only thing that has been proven to consistently reduced the number of children born per woman is to improve the standard of living of women. It’s not about condoms or abortions or birth control, it’s about the 51% of our species who are female having opportunities other than motherhood.

            1. keep living in fantasyland until the world dies … we are at a tipping point and you want women’s rights in the underdeveloped world to solve this ? wow … good luck …

              1. Please excuse Mr Faulkner as he has refused to accept the path that has been massaged for him to become a productive member of this board.

                1. We all look forward to the day that you publish a comment that contributes anything of substance to the conversation.

                1. it is nice to be a dreamer but eventually you have to wake up and find real world solutions to real world problems. you support UBI for everyone to sit at home and do nothing except produce more babies. as Warren said, where are these meaningful jobs going to come from ? manufacturing jobs in the west vanished when china and india started mass producing. people don’t even have to go into shops to buy anything now … the internet is taking over. robotics are even replacing all of those manual jobs that moved to china and india … really, what is your real world solution ? you support women having meaningful jobs and raising their SOL (as we all do) and UBI … all pipe dreams in this day and age

                  1. I didn’t say anything about women having meaningful jobs. I said when women have opportunities other than motherhood they have fewer children. The determinants that go into birthrate are many, but sitting around having lots of free time isn’t one of them. Standard of living isn’t going to be about having a job in the future. Were that to be the case, 90% of the population would starve. I support UBI because it’s the only viable solution in a global economy in which almost all human labor is obsolete while at the same time productivity is greater than it’s ever been. When the stores and warehouses are fully stocked but nobody can exchange their labor for goods and services, people aren’t going to just sit by idly and starve (or even worse, watch their children starve). The way we allocate goods and services will change because it has to. The only other alternative is global civil unrest. The system we’ve been living with since the renaissance has outlived its usefulness. That’s not a pipe dream, it’s an honest appraisal of where civilization is right now.

                    But I ask again, what solutions are you proposing? Should we break the machines like Luddites to preserve our Jobs? Forced sterilization to reduce the birthrate? What solutions, specifically, are you proposing? Sounds to me like you think there’s no way forward. A lot of pundits at the time wrote the same thing when feudalism was collapsing. Even more said the economy couldn’t possibly survive without slavery. You should take solace in the fact that the human race always finds a way forward and every era since we came down from the trees has been better than the era that preceded it.

                    1. the 50s and 60s were the peak … it has been going down since then.
                      sorry but I can’t see a solution. I hope and pray for one but yours isn’t it.
                      who is going to give the billions of dollars to all of the unemployed to get them to spend ?
                      what other meaningful thing did you have in mind for women if not work ?
                      sorry but you have gone way passed my level of interest.

                    2. The 50s and 60s were the peak for the US, about 3.4% of the world’s population. For most of the rest of world it was pretty hard times. For that matter, I’m black. The 50s and 60s were no peak for my ancestors. I’m sure most women would agree that times are better now than they were in the 50s and 60s as well. When you learn to see the world from more than just your own vantage point (empathy), you’ll gain insight that will allow you to recognize that things aren’t as bad as you think.

                      Or you can fall back on hopes and prayers because that’s always a viable solution to real world problems.

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