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Of the 50 most murderous cities in the world, 42 are in Latin America but none are in Ecuador

Brazil and Mexico head a new list of countries with the world’s most murderous cities. According to the list compiled by Mexico’s Citizen Council for Public Safety and Criminal Justice (Ccspjp), 16 of those cities are in Brazil, 12 are in Mexico and five are in the United States.

Mexico leads the world in journalist murders. Most die at the hands of drug cartels.

Venezuela, El Salvador, Colombia and Honduras also ranked high for cities with the most murders.

No city in Ecuador made the list.

The Mexican city of Los Cabos ranks first with 365 murders in 2017, up dramatically from 65 in 2016, according to Ccspjp. Once a popular tourist destination in Baja California, the city of 330,000 blames drug trafficking for its skyrocketing murder rate.

Following Los Cabos on the list are Caracas, Venezuela with Acapulco, Mexico in third, Natal, Brazil in fourth, and Tijuana, Mexico in fifth.

The average murder rate of the 50 cities on the list was 59.17 per 100,000 population.

The Ccspjp reports that Ecuador has shown the most dramatic drop in murder over the past decade in Latin America, dropping from 13 murders per 100,000 residents to 5.5, third lowest in the western hemisphere.

According to Ccspjp, most murders in Latin America are associated with the illegal drug trade although it notes that extreme poverty is also a major factor.

Top 25 most murderous cities

23 thoughts on “Of the 50 most murderous cities in the world, 42 are in Latin America but none are in Ecuador

  1. With so many foreigners coming from Venezuela, Colombia, middle east , etc, who can guarantee Ecuador will remain off the list.

    1. Best to think that they are leaving the violence behind and bringing with them new ideas and skills.

    2. Neither Colombia nor any country in the Middle East are on the list, so I’m not sure your question is well constructed. Be that as it may, nobody can guarantee anything about the future. That’s how time works.

      1. Colombia is included in the article and it has two cities mentioned in the 50 cities list, the reason I mentioned the middle east is because of this https://www.atlasandboots.com/most-dangerous-countries-in-the-world-ranked/
        On this list there are 10 Muslim countries in the first 35 entries.
        Ecuador has an open border policy which I think is going to hurt the country in the short run. People come looking for jobs this is going to saturate the few openings remaining and with so many unemployed what do you think is going to happen? I leave this answer to your imagination, regards.

        1. Neither Colombia nor any country in the Middle East is on top 20 list, so my comment stands. One thing that is on the list is the United States, yet you don’t seem concerned that so many people coming from there is a threat to Ecuador.

          As for your second paragraph, unemployment in Ecuador stands at 5% and has been there for the past several years. To any economist, right or left, that is what is known as “full employment”. Getting the unemployment rate below that level in any economy is nearly impossible because 1 out of 20 people is always between jobs, in school to improve their qualifications or simply not looking for a job. As any employer in Ecuador will tell you, the biggest problem is not wading through a pile of resumes, it’s finding qualified people to fill a given position. Therefore, your assertion that there are “so many unemployed” or that there are “few openings” is less an answer and more a display of your willingness to ignore objective reality. But hey, never let facts change your beliefs, right? What’s important is not the way things really are, it’s how you really “feel” about them. Regards.

          1. Of course you are, on this list https://www.atlasandboots.com/most-dangerous-countries-in-the-world-ranked/
            There are 25 muslin countries in the first 35 entries, many immigrants from these countries come to Ecuador, there has been a number of instances where Muslims inmigrants have tried to sneak into the US from the Mexican border coming from Ecuador.
            I don’t know their intentions but your guess is as good as mine
            http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2016/apr/04/ron-desantis/terrorists-groups-besides-isis-crossing-us-mexico-/
            As far as your 5% I won’t challenge that, however, you are making a mistake by putting Ecuador and the developed countries in the same basket why I say this? In Ecuador the partial self employment ie: ” fruit, empanadas, kitchen wares, food, candy vendors, taxi drivers, etc makes up for almost 25% of those without a formal job meaning they live below the poverty line bringing this number to roughly 1.5 million people, over 50% of these people in this group are professionals, please go here http://www.ecuadorencifras.gob.ec/enemdu-2017/
            and select: “presentacion de resultados principales ”
            There is a lot of info hard to digest but helpful, one item in the data tells is that about 50% of employed people are informal. What informal means : “self employed “. I am no expert by any means just a concern citizen, Those numbers above tells me that iam right. If there is an open door good and bad are going to enter the country and will affect it and the Ecuadorian people.

            1. People selling candy on the streets are counted as unemployed. Individuals are only counted as employed in Ecuador if they are registered with IESS as such, so your assertions don’t stand up to scrutiny. As for being self-employed, I am a physician and like many professionals, I have spent much of my career “self employed”. Lawyers, business owners, consultants, anyone who does not receive a paycheck every quincena is self-employed. That doesn’t mean that they are living in poverty. The reality remains that there is full employment in Ecuador. As any business owner will tell you, the problem is not droves of people applying, it’s a lack of qualified applicants. That is a generational problem that requires improving average skill levels across the board and, again, has nothing to do with your assertion that Venezuelans and Colombians are flooding the country and taking all the jobs. In fact, were it not for these people, half the service businesses like restaurants and hotels would have gone under due to lack of people to keep the places running.

              But since you’re trying to change the subject instead of just accepting that your “feelings” have nothing to do with the reality, I’ll steer you back to the two assertions I was debating in the first place.

              1. “With so many foreigners coming from Venezuela, Colombia, middle east , etc, who can guarantee Ecuador will remain off the list.”

              2. “People come looking for jobs this is going to saturate the few openings remaining and with so many unemployed what you think is going to happen?”

              Again, your questions are poorly constructed as they have no grounds in reality. Finding a new list that validates your “feelings” and that nobody was discussing does not get you off the hook.

              1. My questions are very simple for anyone to understand, I believe I have proven you wrong on all of you assertions I have included numbers from the horse’s mouth “INEC” for your inspection but for some reason you have ignored it. here is another one: http://www.ecuadorencifras.gob.ec/pobreza-por-ingresos-resultados-2017/
                Click on the second item on the list and download the pdf, the poverty level includes informal workers the numbers are there, it reports 1.5 million unemployed people, for anybody who wants to know that number is alarming specially since it when fron 22.6% on 2016 to 37% on 2017, I could not make this shit up, feelings has nothing to do with this report, as far as your concern everything is ok. Lets keep the door open and let everyone in, There are jobs all over the place and there is only a 5% unemployment rate, that is your reality. Keep dreaming.

                1. So I downloaded the pdf and to no surprise, it doesn’t say a single thing you’re claiming. It’s talking about poverty rates, not unemployment rates, and that rate is a percentage of EVERYONE, housewives, children, students, the disabled, the retired, anyone who falls below the poverty line within the country. Unemployment rates are only based on adults who are seeking employment. You should have learned that in grade school.

                  In fact, the only place that report even mentions employment rates is in the methodology section and nowhere does it give a single unemployment figure, especially not the 22.6% to 37% rates you claim or the 1.5 million people. And you wonder why “for some reason I ignored it”. It’s because people like you post a lot of BS that anyone with a basic understanding of what’s going on in this country already knows from the outset is false.

                  Following links in nonsense posts is always a waste of time. They never say what the BSer claims they say . . . or maybe you already knew it didn’t say what you claim but hoped a blue hypertext would dazzle everyone with BS. Perhaps you thought you were right when you first posted your bogus figures and then searched desperately to try and find something to support your original assertion. When you couldn’t find it, you instead posted something completely unrelated in the hopes nobody would check. I really have no idea what motivates someone to insist on repeating lies in an internet discussion, that’s between you and your therapist, but anyone is welcome to follow your link and see for themselves that you completely made up everything you’ve asserted.

                  And for the record, neither Colombia nor any countries from the Middle East are on the list in question here. That’s what this discussion was about and your attempts to change the subject as soon as you’re called out will never hide that reality. You’ve gone from alarmist rhetoric about outsiders coming in and threatening security to trying to pass off poverty rates as the unemployment rate, all because your statement that started this discussion was utter nonsense and I pointed it out. I’m always amazed by the levels of intellectual dishonesty people will stoop to instead of just admitting they were wrong. When you’re in a hole, stop digging.

                  But feel free to try and change the subject again.

                  1. It looks your nerves were touch there, try to keep your coolness no need for name calling or the use of adjectives but I’m glad you had the opportunity to read that report although that was not the one I want it you to read. This one is: http://www.ecuadorencifras.gob.ec/documentos/web-inec/EMPLEO/2017/Diciembre/122017_M.Laboral.pdf
                    but nonetheless, it shows Ecuador suffers from extreme poverty although I’m not sure exactly how they arrived at those numbers or how many people statistically are in this report.
                    The number you suggested earlier {5%} well it actually is 3.2% for 2017, base on 11.9 million people with age 15 and older meaning with age to work, no children on this report, { with Ecuador total population 16.7M}, according to that report there are 8.1M that are economically active and 3.8M are economically Inactive (retired people), there are 7.7M employed, this last number is breakdown as follows:
                    3.4M =People adequately employed contributing to the IESS
                    1.6M = Sub-employed or informal, part time workers etc. no IESS
                    700K= not been paid (house wife, etc), no IESS
                    2M= other or non adequately employed this group of people do not contribute to IESS
                    373K= Unemployed. 3.2%
                    Now as with anything else you can not assume that the sub-employed; which are classified as people working less than 40 hours and or making less than minimum wage also called informal workers; are not looking for jobs. with the new immigrant arrivals from neighboring countries in the fight for those openings the sub-employed also participate in the hunt for a better job, as result now you have 2M people looking for jobs if you add those 2M that make the ”other” group then you will have 4M people looking for jobs. My whole point being that there are not enough openings for “so many people” looking for jobs. at this moment I don’t know how many people from the neighboring countries are living in Ecuador and looking for jobs if they are coming in at a rate of 1200 @ day then its a lot.
                    I don’t know if you get the point I am making here this is really simple but hey I know it could be very hard to understand for some. You see if you think you know everything then it becomes a problem, you won’t be able to learn nothing new since you are already perfect. the numbers any government gives you needs to be scrutinize to do this you need to think outside the box.
                    I still stand by the questions I had posted earlier, nothing here is sentimental and nothing is said in anger but rather well though out to debunk all your false assertions, no need to call you names.

                    1. Sorry bud. I didn’t bother to read beyond the link because, yet again, it doesn’t support any of your previous assertions. I suspect the rest of your diatribe is just another attempt to change the subject, but suffice it to say my original statements still stand. Neither Colombia nor any country from the Middle East is on the list in question so your concerns about safety are unfounded and Ecuador is at full employment so your claims that foreigners are coming in and taking all the jobs are equally meaningless. You can write another 500 word essay if you really need to, but let the record show that you have been lying about the figures and changing the subject in a desperate attempt to avoid admitting you were wrong. You are an intellectually dishonest debater. There is literally nothing to be gained from arguing with someone willing to ignore objective reality to keep their fantasy alive. I’ll let you get the last word now since apparently that means more to you than the truth.

    3. That is not the reality Xavier. If you examine the number of immigrants to Ecuador, where they come from, and correlate that with the murder rate in their originating country, the biggest danger to the Ecuadorian murder rate is from US expats. And that does not factor in the proliferation of guns they introduce into Ecuadorian society that hikes the murder rate as well. Immigrants bring their culture with them.

  2. At first glance, it seems like the data is somewhat skewed to the Western Hemisphere, not surprisingly, considering the source. I’d really be interested in seeing a thorough study that includes “collateral” civilian casualties in undeclared/informally declared wars, e.g., the War on Terror, War on Drugs, etc. They probably wouldn’t be listed as homicides in most studies, but to the victims and their families, the distinction makes little or no difference; and it would definitely provide a much clearer picture of the world’s most dangerous places.

    1. Anytime a person is intentionally killed by another person, it’s classified as homicide. The reality is that despite impression given by 24-hour news channels, the day-to-day violence in the west far outweighs the occasional violence caused by wars. During the height of the Iraq war, Mexico had a higher homicide rate than Iraq and Caracas was more dangerous than Baghdad.

  3. If you remove the stats from just 4 US cities such as St. Louis, Baltimore, New Orleans, Detroit, the USA rises to the top 5-10 safest countries in the world to visit. The ten cities (there are more) with the highest levels of gun violence/crime, welfare and poverty have decades of democrat governance in common. That said, when visiting Cuenca and Quito, I felt very safe, just as I did in Medellin.

    1. That thing about Democrat governance is a correlation, but, is not a cause. That would be a short sighted un researched confirmation bias, no more. Then it can be said one million dead in the illegal Iraq war and the creation of a terrorist front greater then before is Republican. It is better to look to bigger perspectives like causes – poverty and hopelessness in society not related to political parties. Then there is the proliferation of guns and access as in the USA and that does in research correlate to higher gun violence and homicude rates. Likewise in governments excursions into war to use an excess of new advanced weapons on other countries and people wrongfully only because you have them to be used.

    2. They’ve also had half a century of a failed drugs policy. But hey, never let reality influence your ideology, right?

      1. Jason, In the last few days I have come to see that there is no “ideology” or set of principles. Merely hate, fear, and an all-consuming thirst for power. They may dress it up in false piety and fancy labels, but it is bs.

        The reason I have come to this conclusion is current. They have constantly and loudly trumpeted Bill Clinton’s morally despicable acceptance of a bj for a generation, right up to the last election. Yet they ignore Trump’s loud brassy affair with a porn star with a Gallic shrug, (which is decidedly odd coming from an US evangelist’s shoulders).

        Frankly, I couldn’t care less about either of their actions (so shoot me) and I do not recall any part of the US Presidential oath involving sexual activity). But the hypocrisy is so disgusting and blatant in this instance that it casts a sick light on everything wearing a Republican label.

        1. It’s called ignoring cognitive dissonance and it’s a common trait among sociopaths. They’ve always been among us, but it took the anonymity of the internet to reveal just how common they were all this time.

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